Shop online for the best selection and prices of 45 70 govt rifles at hinterland outfitters. The 45 70 behaves most like an overgrown pistol cartridge when loaded with unique and the 405. Marlin 4570 low recoil loads alaska outdoors forums. Indeed, it will forever remain unsurpassed as an overall shortrange. Although the old standard load with its 405grain softnosed bullet launched around 1,330 fps is still best for many of the older rifles, particularly those with weaker actions, the new factory loads with. Lyman has had unique data for the 45 70 in the lyman manual and in the cast bullet handbook for at least 50 years. Mauser m98 bolt actions properly converted to fire 45 70 ammunition. If you can get 1200 fps with a 500g bullet you are doing good. Marlin 1895g lever action rifle 1895g, 45 70 govt, 18. In the back, there is a glossary and other useful info. Quick pointing, fasthandling and classic styling chambered for big bore rounds of. I used the data from the hornady reloading manual and used 48. If you can get 1200 fps with a 500g bullet you are. Apparently prompted by the availability of modern rifles for it, factory ammo for this grand old caliber has shown a vast improvement.
This is a good book for the history of the original 4570 but does not have any real comprehensive reloading data for black powder loads. Lyman 48th has data for those cast boolit weights and that powder, plus a pretty good article by matthews covering game and target loads. Original power leather rifle buttstock ammo holder with cheek rest pad, cartridge shell holder. You may already know that there are 3 distinct loadings for. The hornady leverevolution 45 70 ammo did a good job taking down a nice bull before he. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield. That said i have never slugged my 45 70 and dont intend to.
Rifle rimfire handgun shotgun american gunner american whitetail. The buttstock wears a soft rubber pad to help shooters handle. I believe lyman used to have data published for it but its not in there books anymore. The first are milder loads for the trapdoors and for older. Virtually all rifle making companies of the late 19th century chambered their single shots and lever actions for the. As it made its way into commercially produced firearms the name. The alliant booklet only called for 40 gr of rl7 with a speer 400 jacketed only 24000 psi. D4 guns handcrafted leather lever wrap for lever action rifles and shotguns. Hodgdon has a booklet with cowboy loads for various calibers.
You need to specify what make of 45 70 rifle you have. Springfield carbine reloading data, reloading manual, 45 70 government. Check to compare marlin 1895gs 45 70 guide gun stainless 18 barrel. Those whitworth rifles were 45caliber, fired a 500grain round nose. Moose hunting in newfoundland with my marlin 1895sbl guide gun. You know there really arnt any stupid questions, there are sometimes some pretty stupid answers though. This addition to the phoenix weaponry family brings enough versatility to the table to allow you to go hunting for any size game, this modernized cartridge steps into the modern hunting game generating in excess of 4,000 ftlb of energy at the muzzle. I know there are usually two or three different load categories for the 45 70. Loading the 45 70 for accuracy last edited by jsnover. My 45 70 is dedicated to cast, has never seen a jacketed bullet. Unique has proven accurate with all bullets ive tried, from 300 to 500 grains.
Whether you prefer stainless steel or a polished blued finish, marlin has the. Never cross obstacles such as fences or streams with a loaded gun. Starline brass 45 70 govt nickel unprimed bag of 100. Do not fire a gun with an obstructed or damaged barrel. Didnt know if a 49 gr charge of rl7 was hot for a modern marlin hunting load 40,000 psi ish. I have developed a real love affair with sr4759 for 45 70 with cast bullets.
So i will be getting the 45lc lever to that looks identical to the marlin 1895 lever gun. The ideal low recoil, range, fun shooting ammo for the 45 70 is the cast bullet stuff loaded down to about 11001200 fps with the 350400 gr cast bullets, but that is a reloading proposition. Those whitworth rifles were 45caliber, fired a 500grain round nose bullet. Anyone who has worked with the 4570 government with loads. Pressures peak when the bullet is still partially within the case, most likely. The sr4759 fills the case better in the larger charges required. Any time you come up with a question you just ask away, that is the whole purpose in this board. Optimized for rapid expansion, high weight retention, and deep penetration, this is an outstanding choice of. They can shoot to a thousand yards but it gets tougher after 800 or so. I am going to start low and work up, but i wanted to know where to start.
As those companies and their rifles faded away, the. Anyone who has worked with the 45 70 government with loads using blackpowder, smokeless to match blackpowder performance, or smokeless loads at higher pressure, soon learns that this cartridge offers phenomenal performance. Hyatt guns sells a number of rifles chambered in 45 70. The below mentioned data is presented in bar and psi values. Any of you guys willing to take a picture of the load data in these manuals. I am eventually going to get into cowboy action shooting. Five best reloading books every ammunition reloader needs. Loads for the marlin 4570 guide gun gun and game the. The 45 70 auto christine has phoenixs custom trigger, set to 3 pounds. Also stock up on ammo and gun accessories for your 45 70 govt rifle. Just like youd expect with such a popular cartridge, barnes produces.
I am looking to stoke the loads up a little, factory just isnt enough. Tc recommends using any trapdoor data, but i was wondering if anyone had any specific loads for the shorter contender. As stated, reloading manuals generally split reloading data for the. Fairly easy to shoot and tends to be very accurate in most guns. I eventually switched to sr4759 for better accuracy. These rifles are often easy to carry, whether on foot or on horseback, and are quick to mount and fire. My question is, will a shorter cartridge overall length create a dangerous pressure situation in. I am a viet nam vet, marine and am no stranger to firearms. First, full pwer 45 70 loads are in a very different class than full power 454 loads, when both are fired out of a rifle. Its pistolgrip buttstock and steelcapped forend are crafted of beautiful american walnut and cut with checkering to provide a sure grip. Probably the best source for information about what ammo can be fired in what gun is to look at the warnings on the ammunition boxes from ammunition manufactures. The subject of this article is an ultimate guide gun from the marlin custom shop, chambered in. Media continues push to tie gun sales to increases in suicides.
It first saw military service in 1873, during the indian wars, and replaced the. If you are carrying a loaded gun in the field, never follow a companion. The 3rd and the hottest are for stronger modern action types. I live in the country with my wife, so for home protection i have a 12 gauge pistol grip shot gun. It took me 41 years to purchase a firearm, since nam. Cleaning the rifle after a shooting session is a breeze. Whats nice is the book is easy to carry to a gun show and you dont have to pull out a smart. The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap.
For the lil gun you might start with the 2400 data and develop your own loads, should be fun and very comfortable, also email or call hodgdon and ask, they. Its also 100% copper, which makes the vortx an ideal brand of lead free. Christine is a rifle platform ar chambered in 45 70. Your new lever action rifle should provide you and your family with many years of safe enjoyment and pride of ownership. Covid19 is resulting in increased processing times 1014 business days. Detailed rifle ammo chart weapons guns, military weapons, guns. But shooting steel, water jugs, etc is a hoot and not a better rifle to do it with. Unique is listed for the 45 70 in manuals back to the first cast bullet manual in 1958, at least. A common type in this category is the remington 45 70 with the 405 gr jsp bullet. To cover the leveraction guide gun category, i contacted henry repeating arms to request one of the newfor2016 allweather h010aw. Read this article before you go hunting with the 4570 govt today though.
It seemed to me to be perfect for the guide gun, and allowed the scope to be removed and replaced without loss of zero if i wanted to use the iron sights. Available in various finishes and textures ranging from black walnut to laminated hardwood. Government at the armys springfield armory for use with the springfield model 1873. Loading 4570 blackpowder cartridges shiloh rifle forums. There are over 25 cartridges shown including everything from the. These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Order status user manuals faqs videos load data customer service. The 45 70 has always been a favorite of mine, although id never hunted in my life and at 74 now i doubt if i will. Newfoundland moose hunting with marlin 4570 youtube. Hipoint instruction sheet for c99mm and cf 380380 a.
Unfollow 45 70 rifle to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. I want to load a 350 grain cast bullet, with gas check into this shorter case. My 45 70 rifle is a marlin 1895gs but i have a henry allweather big boy in 44 mag which is a superb deer killer pushing 265 grain hornady flat nose sps over h110. Im always amazed at the comments that come here testifying to 12 moa at 100 yards with a marlin guide gun off the hood of a car. To help steer the new guys in the righjt direction hopefully.
The 2nd are loads for the stronger winchester and marlin lever guns. Magnum research bfr45 70 bfr long cylinder ss single 45 70 government 10 5 black rubber stainless. Hodgdon powder is committed to the cowboy action game by providing the widest variety of pistol, rifle and shotshell data in the industry. Powder measuring technique push the measure through the powder only once, then give the measure a slight shake sideways to level it off. May 18, 2015 case dimensions are also included along with the type of gun used. Unique is not listed in the lyman 48th, i dont know why. Under no circumstances should this data be used in original trapdoor springfields, modern trapdoor replicas, original sharps model 1874 rifles, any rolling block actions, or other original old 45 70 rifles. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. Alphabetical most popular price lowest to highest price highest to lowest age newest first age oldest first 4570 magnum lever gun ammo 405 gr. The moa can handle the modern firearm data correct. Bb 45 70 magnum load runs about 1875 fps out of an 18. He listed the data by pressure levels, but 4320 is not listed at all.
Most loads sighted 3 high at 100yards will drop nearly a foot at 200 yards. Just now found one set of data on realguns specifically for the remmington 405 jfn, 49 grains reloader 7 and cci200, 1940 fps. Army in 1873, this cartridge was first known as the. Cant wait to reload this one and get it to the range. The 45 70 and the 45 70 govt are the same cartridge no difference at all. I am looking for load information for my marlin guide gun 45 70.